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I believe that Heaven and Hell no longer fit the moralities of RP Fear. In a Role-Play where the main fear comes from the inevitability of death and the idea that the universe is uncaring, having a Heaven/Hell dichotomy is rather unfitting.
Therefore, I have a proposal that I refer to as the Simulation. The name, of course, is pending, but it is related to the fears, and it's an extension one Fear in particular The Archangel, which I feel would be much more fitting to the Role-play's themes.
The Simulation is a form of the Archangel from the main Fear Universe. In the Fear Universe, the Archangel was the Afterlife. The only way to escape being part of the Archangel was to be killed by another Fear directly.
Therefore, I believe that we should take this concept. If a character dies by the hand of anything other than a Fear in a physical form (in which case you simply cease to exist), they become part of Archangel's Simulation. This Simulation is a horrible existence where all men and women, good or evil, go. This means it fits the "uncaring" theme of the universe we are attempting to create, as it would make your character's actions utterly meaningless. They could be a drug-addled cannibal baby-killer, or Jesus himself, and they would go to the same afterlife.
What happens in the Simulation?
You are aware you are dead, but the first sensation you have is of being pushed. You are wet and cold. You have been reborn into one of the countless "Spaces" within the Simulation. There, you live your life. You live every life you could have, always born of the same parents, at the same time. Thus, you live your life, knowing it is a false life, constantly reminded it is a false life. People have no irises, they speak in a monotone. You life your entire life, every possible way your life could have gone. Your actions are not your own. You are trapped, living a false life. Eventually, you die. You think that it's over, you can find peace.
But you feel a pushing. You are cold and wet. The Simulation has you, and it will always have you. You live a thousand billion lives, every single way your life could have gone and every way it could have ended, every variation on your life that could have changed it. So, forever. You remember every past life, and eventually, you start to forget yourself. Your previous life is gone, replaced with one of this countless lives you lived. This happens, ad infinitum until you have lived every possible variation of you life. Then, you cease to be.
This could very easily replace Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. Reapers would vanish, perhaps, but Demons and Angels could become vagabonds of the world, Shattered Beings. Or, they could combine with each other, or do countless things. They may not have to change at all, actually, still having their war, however, they would simply not reside in Heaven or Hell. Their war would occur in the invisible folds of reality humanity cannot see.
Again, I feel this proposal could easily replace Heaven and Hell, and could fit the theme of the Role-Play well, given the uncaring nature of the new universe and strange, perhaps absent, morality.
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Proposal for Kinetic Powers:
I think we should have Kinetic Powers be more like in Stephen King's works such as Firestarter and Carrie. Vaguely supernatural, difficult to control, causes just as much if not more harm to the user than bennefits. Basically, psychic powers done how they usually are in a horror setting. You know, because at it's core, this is technically a cosmic/gothic horror inspired RP.
Proposal for Magic:
Following up on that, Magic should be more Occult and Lovecraftian in nature. More Aliester Crowley, less Merlin Ambrose the Tree Wizard (still pushing that joke).
Magic should be rituals and rites, tampering with forces beyond our understanding. Benneficial in low ammounts, but the more you try to achive, the more liekly you are to screw up.
It should also be vague about weather or not it's actually real. I'd suggest reading Magic is Afoot by Alliterator for an example of how magic should actually be like.
So yeah.
So, I'll just make a pros and cons thing.
PROS:
- Really cares about and is invested in this wiki.
- Is willing to listen to ideas of the community.
- Thinks about things rationally about 85% of the time.
- Won't let emmotions or personal bias affect decisions.
- Has never abused and OP character.
- Won't be the only admin, 'cause that would be hell.
CONS:
- Is kind of an idiot.
- Has terrible spelling and grammar.
- Tends to do stupid things on impulse the other 15% of the time.
- Still has made an OP character before.
- Hasn't actually ever run a plot.
- Can't think fo a better con to balance out the pros and cons.
With Fobarimperius making a very sudden departure from this wiki, I have decided to apply for Adminship. I have clocked in the most edits of any user, and have been on this wiki more often and for longer than most users currently active.
I believe that I would be good as Admin, and already have several ideas to improve the Wiki, such as the re-booting and mataining the "Story Thus Far" page, which would record each major event in an Arc in detail, to aid users, new and old, in getting familiar with the current events of the Role-Play after joining, or in the case an old user must take a break.
Thus, I would like to apply for being an Admin of this wiki.
Due to recent discussion between me, Rogue, and 13, on the chat, I have decided to propose the following change to how we RP here.
All characters must be approved by the creator of the concept/faction the charater belongs to. This would mean that for an character to be an Elemental or a Changeling, they must come to me. For a Black Eden character, they go to 13, for Angels, Demons, Vampires, and Werewolves, they would go to Rogue, and for characters in the Principle or the Researchers, they go to Fobar.
All pages would likely have some indication of who to go to for approval, and if a character is not approved, yet played anyways, then an approprite consequence would be decided by the moderators and Admins, based on how unbalanced the character is.
This rule is related to the Breaking the Mythos rule. Perhaps it could be listed as a subsection?
Hello, All! Friendly neighborhood Lemontree over here!
I have a proposal to make: The Admin list is currently filled with people who are no longer present on this wiki, and at the current time, seem to have no plans to return under their current accounts. Therefore, I propose that we remove the following users from their current office, be it Administrator or Chat Moderator:
DaemonTheDemon (Administrator)
None of these users have been active, and it seems that none of them will return for some time. There is no reason they they should hold power, and thus, I propose that they are removed from office.
I have this idea that I've mentioned in the comments of Black Eden being built around The Manufactured Newborn, sort of like a strange symbiotic relationship with Black Eden using the Newborn to advance humanity, and the Newborn using Black Eden to help it expand and assimilate.
Basically, it'd give Black Eden a defined goal and agenda, it'd create interesting plot points and conflict, and would also keep them working from the shadows and subtly rather than overtly, because, lets face it, it wouldn't go over so well for them if it became public that A) supernatural beings exist, and B) they were using them.
Not to mention giving them a rival in The Panopticon.
So how 'bout it?
I think that in the Old Mythos, there are too many things that would need explaining about people's characters if we simply got rid of all of the information and pretended it didn't happen. We would also lose a very large part of the history of this wiki.
Therefore, I propose the making of a category entitled "The Old Universe," or something similar, in which we put all pages related to the Wars of the old universe, locations like the Praesidium of the Cosmos, and etc, and make it clear that they no longer effect the current mythos, nor will ever.
Given the pages that have been marked for both rewrite and deletion, I was wondering when the reformations will start. If the admins allow, I would like to be able to try my hand at rewriting a few of the pages, just to kick things off.
So, magical portals are nothing new to this world. So, I have an idea. Why not have a portal between the world of RP Fear and Secret RP? So characters could have materials, share information, and meet beings from both worlds. So, a character here could have a small item of Darkglass, or a Wizard of Secret RP could conduct experiments on a bottle of Azoth.
Obviously, I don't think this could happen on a regular basis, so perhaps it would be a spell that is both complex to learn and difficult to preform. However, if talk of Crossovers is already occurring, why not just bind the two worlds together entirely?
I was thinking shattered glass with greyscale could be a good theme for the wiki, so I've tried to implement the idea. There's a shattered mirror attempt as well, but it's not as good, I think. Thoughts on the new theme?
So, I had an idea about the constants. However, not like it is currently.
Constants should be ideas, concepts, and they manifest somewhat differently in each universe.
There are four, each representing an idea oppsite another, and at the same time combining.
Here they are:
- Existance
- Nothingness
- Stability
- Entropy
These are four forces that exist in some form in all realities. In some realities, they may mannifest in some form or another. In this universe, they would amnifest like so:
Existance: The Deep. The Deep's shtick is that it has to exist, because certain things wouldn't make sense otherwise, like why EAT hasn't taken over the entire ocean, or why The Quiet hasn't unmade all realities by now. But all that's known about The Deep, the fact that it exists. So that's why the Fear of the Unknown is the embodyment of Existance. Opposite of The Quiet's Nothingness.
Nothingness: The Quiet (duh). This one should be slef-explanitory, but seeing how The Quiet has been handled here, it's clearly not. The Quiet is nothingness. It is juts a large mass of nothing, and it causes other things to become nothing. The only reason that The Quiet hasn't made all realities into nothing is because The Deep exists. (For an example of how The Quiet should be portrayed, watch The Neverending Story, and take The Nothing, and kick it up to eleven). Opposite of The Deep's existance.
Stability: The Architect. The Architect is a reletively new fear representing Power, Creation, and Destruction. So I took that, and thought "Hey, all those usually entail order and stability of some kind". I chose the name "Stability" " because it sounds cool, plus it sounds better than "Order". Opposite of The Glitch's Entropy.
Entropy: The Glitch. As it already is the fear of dissorder and entropy, The Glitch would be the perfect Fear to serve as the constant of Entropy. It is cosmic enough to work, as it only really manifests as a glitch in reality, it litterally is "living" dissorder. Opposite of The Architect's Stability.
And as you can see, there are concepts that oppose eachother, but they also overlap. Existance and Nothingness can both be Stable or Chaotic, and (redundantly saying) Stability and Entropy can exist in both Existance and Nothingness.
So what do you all think? (note, two of these are non-sentiant, and two are of semi or limited sentiance, only it's a different kind of sentiance).
In looking at the the Terms of Service and RP rules page (both of which I helped create and maintain), I feel that the ToS is too bulky, too exact. It's akin to the laws of Code of Hammurabi, with strict rules and harsher punishment. As such, I feel that a new ToS must be created, less bulky, less long, and giving the Admins less dictatorial control over the wiki. The contents of said ToS, in my mind, would look akin to this:
These are the rules and regulations of the site. In most cases, the details of bans are left vague, for the individual Admin to interpret as he or she sees fit. In most cases, a single admin can resolve issues, however, in cases where that cannot occur, the Founder (DaemontheDemon) should be contacted on his message wall, or several admins should discuss it together to reach a conclusion.
Major Rules
Respect all users
While yes, trolls and spammers are annoying, they are still users of this site. Everyone, from the Founder to the troll on chat deserves respect (though the latter will be banned for breaking this rule, most likely).
Pointsgaming
Editing for nothing more but to get points is strictly prohibited. Anyone suspected of this shall have their edit history investigated, and possibly banned, based on how prolific they are, if their edits are seen as unneeded by at least two admins.
Flaming
Anyone intentionally attempting to incite rage upon the forums, message walls, or chat will be banned for at least two hours.
Religion
Respectful discussion of religion and religious concepts is totally allowed on the main chat, as long as all users are comfortable with the discussion. Otherwise, the conversation must be taken to Personal Messages.
However, people who simply say they are superior due to religion or that other users will "burn in hell" to use a common example, will be banned for at least a day.
Accusations and Burden of Proof
Anyone accusing any Admin or User of breaking any rule listed above or below has the burden of proof upon them. If an admin was present, the Admin can make a choice. However, if no Admin is on, or the rule-breaking occurred in Personal Messages, then screenshots or other proof (such as user testimonies) must be provided, or the case shall be declared void.
Contesting bans
Any user may contest a ban if it is possible that rules were not necessarily broken, but the Admin simply banned out of spite, anger, or other factors. If there is a case to be made, then the person in question shall have their ban reduced to 2 hours, or if the ban is already 2 hours, then they shall be unbanned as soon as the case against the admin is made.
As a general rule, community consensus can overrule a single admin's choice over bans. If all admins make the same choice, regardless of what the community feels, then the choice is final.
Admin Rules
These rules apply mainly to situations concerning Admins.
Bans
If a ban occurs, there must be evidence to state the ban is just, in the form of screenshots, messages on message walls, or testimonies by at least 3 users all telling similar stories. If no evidence of that nature exists, the ban is considered invalid, and the user is unbanned as per the "contesting bans" rule.
Power abuse
"Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you" is the general attitude on this wiki to power abuse. After two bans that are considered invalid or successfully contested, the Admin will be reprimended through, if they are a chat mod, total removal of power, and if they are an admin, demotion to a chat mod level. After three bans considered unjust or invalid, the powers are totally stripped.
So, I posted this idea a while ago, but recently it seems several people would be on board with this.
Basically, my preposition is to have an In-Game event that triggers the destruction of reality causing multiple realities to vannish, new ones to appear, some to mix, etc etc etc.
What this will achive? Resetting the RP to it's "Golden Age" (I'm using DC comics expressions). This would mean that the Fears would become the main villains once again, bringing this RP to it's original intentions as a Fear Mythos RP, rather than (as Jared so acurately put it) a "horror-action RP".
So First, I propose we vote on the universal crisis/reset.
If that egt's passed, we can then decide AS A COMMUNITY what the new RP should be like.
EVERYONE! CHOOSE A RANDOM CHARACTER AND APPLY THE FIRST SONG TITLE YOU THINK OF TO THAT CHARACTER! POST THE RESULTS BELOW! It doesn't need to make sense, and in a way, that may make this fun.
Character: Vovy
http://the-rp-fear.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Photophosphorylation/General_Consensus
Please take the time to read and respond to this blog as it concerns us all.
Everytime Kiba dies on OOG chat, it is to be recorded here, at the DCK forum post. Please record what day the death took place.
JULY 16th, 2014
- 1:22TheHeathen
- Stabs Kiba and cries, then eats a pie*
- 1:22Dawnofnowhere
- 1:22Königin der Schatten
- dies*
I was thinking due to the recent plotline "The Invasion of Cthulhu" that we could have a Permission to kill rule where we ask the user of the character we want to kill if we can kill their character, that way we don't have sudden deaths and endless crying after the death of a beloved character that we have worked so hard to create?
Hello evferyone I have told several of you of this plan I have for the RP, but it requires a majority vote to go through (in my opinion) due to the strange, odd, and totally unheard of effects it could cause in the Role-Play.
Basically, a God-Like being would remove any supernatuiral elements from the earth (after the Old Ones had been defeated), turning every single supernatural being into a normal (though odd-looking) human being, without any powers or skills beyond their wit and whatever weapons they may have. To regain their powers, they would need to either defeat (hard but possible) this Godly being in combat, or find some other way to access his store of powers and gain their powers back.
I suggest this plot line in the hopes that it will bring a more human aspect into the Role-Play, bringing back the "Fear" in "The World of Fear". Discuss below.